Miranda McWhorter had many reasons to turn down The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. When season one started filming, the MomToker was going through a personal faith crisis that led her to leave the Mormon church, as well as a messy divorce from her husband, Chase. Then there was the swinging scandal that got her cohort a reality show in the first place: Taylor Frankie Paul’s viral revelation that she and her TikTok-famous friends had been swinging with one another’s husbands. McWhorter was one of those swingers, though she insists her involvement was just kissing, no sex.

Now, McWhorter is newly divorced and ready to start MomToking once again. When she shows up at an influencer event in the first episode of season two, the other wives immediately lob clout-chasing allegations — and complaints that she’s gotten too close to Mormon Wives’s breakout villain, Whitney Leavitt. Then there’s Jessi Ngatikaura’s Halloween party, where McWhorter’s ex-husband gets into an altercation with Demi Engemann’s husband, Bret. Despite the drama, McWhorter has officially pushed her way back into the group — just a few days before season two premieres, she says filming for season three is already underway. There are many more Swig visits in this wife’s future.

Tell me about starting MomTok. How did it happen?
Some people forget that Taylor and I were friends for five years before the scandal started. We met online. During COVID, we started making videos together out of boredom and as an escape from motherhood. We met a third friend and started making videos with her, and that’s how MomTok was born.

Give me the basics of the swinging scandal. How did you experience it?
I didn’t realize that people have different definitions of what “hooking up” means! For me, hooking up has always meant sex. So, when Taylor goes on her Live and was like, “Everyone was hooking up with everyone,” I’m like, “No.” My family didn’t even know that I was having a faith crisis at the time, let alone involved in any sort of swing ring. It was pretty heavy. I felt very betrayed by Taylor because she hadn’t been honest with me about what Chase allegedly said to her. Because there was a narrative out there that wasn’t accurate, I opted to say that I wasn’t involved and leave it at that. Looking back, I would change that now.

Is there anything in Taylor’s story that you disagree with?
She’ll say, “We were in an open relationship.” In her relationship, that’s what they were okay with. She’s meaning to speak for herself and her relationship specifically. My ex and I never had a formal conversation about it — I think because we weren’t as involved as other people.

Were you approached to appear on season one?
Taylor, our other friend, and I were approached for a show a year or so prior that didn’t pan out. When they started talking about the pilot for Mormon Wives, they reached out, and I sat on it for a while. A lot of people think I didn’t do it because of Taylor, which definitely played a role. We weren’t good at the time. Do I want to put myself in that position with someone who has made my life so difficult? When Taylor was arrested and they put everything on pause, I was thinking, Maybe I will consider it if she’s not going to be on it. But we wouldn’t know the outcome for a while, so I couldn’t base my decision on that. Had I done season one, my divorce would have been broadcast. That would have made great television, probably, but would be very difficult. So I decided against it.

They called me two days after the air date of season one and asked if I had reconsidered. At that point, I was divorced and a single mom. I thought, “I can’t shake that it feels different this time.” Here we are.

Did you watch the first season?
I did!

What surprised you?
I thought they would incorporate more of the swinging scandal than they did. I’m sure with legal issues it would have been hard to bring it up without me or anyone else that was involved. I had a lot more empathy for the girls than I expected. I knew a lot of them prior, but I didn’t know them well. Watching it, I could really sympathize with them, and that was something that helped with my decision for season two.

A couple of the women claim you’re clout chasing by joining season two. Any response?
First of all, none of us is doing it for free. I went through a lot over those couple of years. I do think it’s funny. When Taylor and I and our other friends were making MomTok videos, they all reached out and wanted to make videos with us. You wanted to make videos with us because we had clout! It’s a full-circle moment.

On the show, you immediately bond with Whitney. How did that relationship form?
Coming on the show, I was very vulnerable, and I knew I was walking into a lion’s den. I know some of the girls think Whitney reaching out and befriending me was calculated, and maybe it was, but at the time, I felt like it was a genuine friendship. At the beginning, I was closest with her and Jen.

Mikayla Matthews said you two “trauma-bonded over ruining friendships and leaving MomTok.” Any response?
Bye! Mikayla really had it for me for a second. I’m not surprised. I think that’s less of an attack on me, to be honest, and more of an attack on Whitney. Mikayla had more issues with me than she would have had I not gotten close with Whitney.

How’s your relationship with Whitney now?
It’s good. There have definitely been some bumps. I can’t say too much because we’re filming now.

Let’s talk about the Halloween party. Chase shows up. What’s your reaction?
Was I surprised? Not really. At the time, I was trying to get into the good graces of the women, so my ex — who most aren’t big fans of — coming around wasn’t going to help my case. I knew the odds of it ending up well were pretty slim.

Do you think Chase touched Demi?
Oh God. I think he brushed Demi. I was also sitting in the living room; I saw it happen. I’m never going to back my ex when I think he’s doing something wrong. That’s part of why I told him he needed to leave the Halloween party. Yes, we have a good co-parenting relationship, and we are friends, but I’m going to call him out. If I backed him in everything, we probably wouldn’t be divorced. But in that situation, I don’t think what he did warranted Bret and Demi’s reaction.

What’s your history with the Mormon church?
I was born and raised Mormon. I grew up in Idaho, which was pretty predominantly LDS. My dad was a seminary teacher for a good chunk of my childhood. It wasn’t until about five years ago that I started having more questions. My ex-husband left the church prior to my doing my own research. I was surprised to find out that I’m far more spiritual after taking a step out than when I was fully in. It’s been difficult for my family, because they’re all still in the church. I’m so grateful for them, but also you never want to disappoint your family.

You said you started doing research. What upset you about the church?
There’s definitely internalized misogyny within the church. Even though a lot of changes have been made, I still have a hard time understanding why they weren’t a thing in the first place, things like racism and the way that they’ve treated the gay community.

Final grab bag of questions: Have you tried ketamine therapy?
Not yet, but I would love to at some point.

What’s your Swig order?
I have two. I’m not really a soda person, so I usually get a Strawberry Breeze with flat water or a diet Raspberry Dream.

 And explains why she almost joined season one after fellow swinger Taylor Frankie Paul’s arrest.